Comments on: The Investment Banking Certification: The Most Useless Idea in the World? https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/ Discover How to Get Into Investment Banking Wed, 24 Apr 2024 14:05:04 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-837237 Wed, 03 Jan 2024 16:44:09 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-837237 In reply to tony.

I would recommend reading our coverage of how to get into IB and what to do as a university student to win internships:

https://mergersandinquisitions.com/how-to-get-into-investment-banking/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/how-to-get-an-investment-banking-internship/

Certifications will not help you much next to high grades, a good university, and solid finance internships.

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By: tony https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-837209 Tue, 02 Jan 2024 06:16:07 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-837209 hi sir i am studying in stevens at hoboken near new york.i will graduate masters in computer science,i have interest in investing banking analyst.and i have less grades present now.
1:there is any solution to get into this field to grab the job.like internships,ceritifications etc.
2:And i am studying masters in comuter science i will complete after a year, Is it possible to get in finance side?
your information helps me a lot

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-818659 Thu, 07 Sep 2023 07:42:09 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-818659 In reply to Christine.

Please see these articles for some ideas:

https://mergersandinquisitions.com/breaking-into-investment-banking-accountant/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/lateral-hiring/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/private-equity-internship-to-investment-banking-networking/

You normally need a “steppingstone” role in between because accounting is quite different from IB. You can also think about areas like business valuation firms or corporate banking to make the switch.

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By: Christine https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-817669 Wed, 06 Sep 2023 06:45:01 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-817669 In reply to M&I – Brian.

Hi Brian, thanks for your useful article! I’m an accountant in a start-up small company and graduated from a QS top 100 university in year 2020. I am currently 25 and have completed ACCA and CFA after graduated. I’m now seeking to switch into IB, but I have no any related internship experience..Could you give some advice on how to get an analyst job in IB?

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-795853 Sat, 15 Apr 2023 21:00:38 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-795853 In reply to Fashera.

Certifications are not going to help. The market for IB in India is quite bad, and you don’t have a great chance of winning real IB roles unless you went to one of the top 2 IIMs. See:

https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-india/

If you already completed an MBA from an unknown school and you already have research experience and equity/mutual fund advisory experience, I’m not really sure of your best option at this stage. My advice would be: “Leave India and go to a market with more front-office jobs.” But if that’s not possible, you might think about boutique banks there or maybe Big 4 firms or something else related to IB that is less competitive than winning jobs at the biggest firms.

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By: Fashera https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-795087 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 23:33:00 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-795087 Hi Brian, I’m Fashera from India, I did MBA in Finance from an unknown Institution and had 3 years of experience as a Research Analyst (did Company profiling for IB firms). Also I did Intern as a Equity and mutual fund advisory from a private Stock broking firm, now I’m planning to take a WSP Financial modeling certification, Am I going on a right way to get a job from IB? Could you please advise me

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-781015 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 16:36:11 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-781015 In reply to Rahul Narang.

The biggest issue here is that you are going to get A LOT of questions about why you want to move into IB if you already started 4 companies. If they were even modestly successful, you should have so much money that it’s not really worth it to work in IB (i.e., $5-10 million+ or at least $1 million+). I’m not trying to pry or ask you for a number, just explaining how bankers will think about this (even if they don’t state it directly).

So, you really need to nail down an answer to this question before you do anything else. If/when you have that, start thinking about networking, interview prep, learning the technical side, etc. See:

https://mergersandinquisitions.com/mba-investment-banking-recruiting-process/

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By: Rahul Narang https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-780451 Sun, 15 Jan 2023 06:47:34 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-780451 Hey Brain,

I am 30 years old and starting my MBA program (Cornell, SC Johnson) this year. I am an entrepreneur having started 4 startups. Never had any finance related job, experience or exposure. I am looking to switch to IB post MBA. What can I do to recruit succesfully in IB post MBA?

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By: M&I - Brian https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-767181 Mon, 24 Oct 2022 03:35:07 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-767181 In reply to Miquel Pérez.

The point of this article is that if you think about everything you could do to improve your chances of winning job offers – going to a better university or business school, improving your grades, getting better work experience, networking, etc. – earning a “certification” should be near the bottom of your list.

“You literally said that working in IB is just impossible for me, but also because you said that the ONLY way to enter in IB is by having studied in Harvard or related universities.”

Where, exactly, was this stated in the article? Your chances are much higher coming from a top university, yes, but it’s not impossible from others. We deal in probabilities, not certainties.

Your chances are “low” if you go to a university that most banks are not familiar with. But people do get in from this background; it’s just that they need to do more networking and start earlier. We’ve covered this topic dozens of times since I began writing this site in 2007, and I’m actually a bit tired of people bringing it up and acting like we haven’t addressed it. See:

https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-recruiting-timeline/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/no-return-offer-investment-banking/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/international-student-investment-banking/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/last-minute-investment-banking-recruiting/
https://mergersandinquisitions.com/how-to-get-into-investment-banking/

I would recommend familiarizing yourself with the IB recruiting process, why it starts so early, and what banks are looking for before jumping to conclusions.

As for your chances: they are not good if you’re planning to graduate from a top 29 university with a 3.0 GPA in a country with a relatively small IB industry (vs. places like the U.K., U.S., or even France/Germany).

The best way to improve your chances is to complete a Master’s degree at a top university in the U.K. and use that plus some off-cycle finance internships to get in. The CFA might give you a marginal benefit, but it’s not a top-priority item vs. everything else on this list.

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By: Miquel Pérez https://mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-certification/#comment-767133 Sat, 22 Oct 2022 13:13:07 +0000 https://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/?p=3616#comment-767133 Hello Brian,
I am so unmotivated by the facts you gave here. I’m a spanish engineering student in second year (what americans call sophomore) and I thought of taking the CFA level 1 in my fourth year because I think that could help me getting into IB or, at least, in a MSc. in Finance in a good business school. Right now, I’m very disappointed not only by the fact that you literally said that working in IB is just impossible for me, but also because you said that the ONLY way to enter in IB is by having studied in Harvard or related universities.

I write this comment because I do not know if you just wanted to create discussion or because you really think that it is impossible for an engineering student (specifically Civil Engineering) to enter in IB, even with a 3.0 GPA from a top 29 university in the subject of Civil Engineering with a CFA level 1.

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